How Are the Ex-Cubs doing? – 8/8 – Finding a better pitcher stat

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A semi-regular feature showing how former Cub players are doing.

For these blog posts, I’ve been sorting both the ex-Cubs hitters and pitchers by WAR to show the value that they’ve had this season. While the numbers for hitters seem to make sense, the numbers for pitchers just seemed goofy. Trevor Williams, and his ERA over 6 seemed to be way too high on the WAR scoreboard. I did some searching around the web, and found this post which discussed differences between WAR and RA9-WAR from 2017:

https://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2017/6/17/15814934/ervin-santana-twins-ra9-war-fwar-debate

Basically, WAR is looking at what should have happened based on the pitcher performance, and not what actually happened – especially when it comes to runs allowed. But I think what actually happened, such as a pitcher giving up runs, should matter. Perhaps not to predict future performance or pitcher potential, but simply to show what has happened to a pitcher that season. I’m going to include a bonus section in this post comparing the WAR to RA9-WAR for the Cubs pitchers this season, just to provide more context.

Ex-Cubs Position players:

#NameTeamWARPAHROPSwRC+
1Kyle SchwarberPHI3.950640.965164
2Cody BellingerNYY3.345220.824126
3Zach McKinstryDET2.838610.804123
4Isaac ParedesHOU2.740919.829133
5Willson ContrerasSTL2.245616.794125
6Mike TauchmanCHW1.52558.824131
7Javier BáezDET1.433211.71597
8Cam SmithHOU1.03957.69496
9Victor CaratiniHOU0.829510.751108
10Miles MastrobuoniSEA0.21721.61283
11Tomás NidoDET0.2370.704101
12Tucker BarnhartTEX0.0150.56471
13Travis Jankowski3 Tms0.0500.57557
14Nick CastellanosPHI-0.245815.736102
15Vidal Bruján2 Tms-0.2480.55452
16Gage Workman2 Tms-0.2170.48539
17Luis VázquezBAL-0.2160.125-77
18Nicky Lopez2 Tms-0.3280.220-21
19Jorge SolerLAA-0.331512.68088
20Christopher MorelTBR-0.42298.66284
21Alexander CanarioPIT-0.41773.58163
22Matt MervisMIA-0.41347.63772
23Nick MartiniCOL-0.51111.58249
24Kris BryantCOL-0.5410.400-4
25Jason HeywardSDP-0.5952.49438
26Joc PedersonTEX-0.71753.54261
27Jeimer CandelarioCIN-0.7912.41010
28Martín MaldonadoSDP-0.81614.57261

With the release of Vidal Brujan, who was picked up by the Orioles (but played only a couple of games for them) and then by the Braves, the number of ex-Cubs with a negative war is 15, while only 11 players have a positive WAR. But with players like Schwarber, Bellinger, McKinstry and Parades, the overall number is still positive.

Ex-Cubs Pitchers

#NameTeamRA9-WARWARGIPERAxERA
1Aroldis ChapmanBOS2.31.74944.21.212.10
2Jason AdamSDP1.91.05555.21.782.95
3Trevor MegillMIL1.31.04239.02.313.20
4Phil Maton2 Tms1.31.14341.12.182.61
5Pierce JohnsonATL1.20.64542.02.362.88
6Shelby MillerARI1.20.63736.11.983.27
7Jeremiah EstradaSDP1.21.45551.22.612.47
8Shawn ArmstrongTEX0.90.74949.22.903.06
9Kyle HendricksLAA0.91.021111.24.593.93
10Chris MartinTEX0.60.73934.12.363.69
11Brendon LittleTOR0.61.15350.02.702.88
12Rob ZastryznyMIL0.50.01513.12.033.13
13Chris FlexenCHC0.5-0.32143.23.095.07
14Andrew Chafin2 Tms0.40.22923.02.353.59
15Hayden WesneskiHOU0.40.2632.04.504.41
16Hunter BiggeTBR0.3-0.21315.02.406.19
17Tommy NanceTOR0.30.2910.20.842.23
18Brooks Kriske2 Tms0.20.057.00.002.71
19Nick BurdiBOS0.20.145.10.004.50
20Craig KimbrelATL0.10.011.00.0014.00
21Wade MileyCIN0.0-0.1312.06.758.34
22Michael Fulmer2 Tms0.00.035.24.7610.37
23Codi HeuerTEX0.0-0.111.16.754.81
24Carl Edwards Jr.LAA-0.1-0.123.09.004.27
25Rich HillKCR-0.1-0.229.05.006.63
26Jesus TinocoMIA-0.20.22019.15.123.29
27Jesse ChavezATL-0.3-0.348.09.006.47
28Génesis Cabrera3 Tms-0.3-0.32428.05.793.96
29Scott EffrossNYY-0.30.01110.28.444.84
30Yu DarvishSDP-0.30.3627.26.513.66
31Ryan PresslyCHC-0.3-0.44441.14.354.97
32Marcus StromanNYY-0.30.0939.06.235.77
33Richard Lovelady2 Tms-0.5-0.388.110.806.97
34Trevor WilliamsWSN-0.51.21782.26.214.38
35Jorge LópezWSN-0.50.32624.26.575.52
36Mark Leiter Jr.NYY-0.60.74335.24.293.51
37Héctor Neris3 Tms-0.80.03426.05.884.59

Switching the sort by RA(-WAR instead of WAR causes Trevor Williams to drop way down, as there’s a 1.7 point difference between his two numbers. Chris Flexen has a much better RA9-WAR, which takes into account his run prevention early in his tenure with the Cubs.

This list now includes Ryan Pressley and Brooks Kriske, who were both released. Genesis Cabrera, who was on his third team with the Pirates has been DFA’d again. Not sure what his next destination will be.

Bonus: Cubs WAR versus RA9-WAR

NameTeamRA9-WARWARDIFF
Shota ImanagaCHC2.40.91.5
Matthew BoydCHC4.53.21.3
Jameson TaillonCHC1.10.20.9
Chris FlexenCHC0.5-0.30.8
Colin ReaCHC1.10.40.7
Cade HortonCHC1.61.10.5
Caleb ThielbarCHC1.30.80.5
Drew PomeranzCHC0.80.40.4
Daniel PalenciaCHC1.410.4
Brad KellerCHC10.70.3
Justin SteeleCHC0.200.2
Gavin HollowellCHC0.200.2
Brooks KriskeCHC0.200.2
Ryan PresslyCHC-0.3-0.40.1
Michael FulmerCHC0.100.1
Michael SorokaCHC0-0.10.1
Ethan RobertsCHC-0.1-0.20.1
Taylor RogersCHC0.10.10
Tom CosgroveCHC0.10.10
Génesis CabreraCHC-0.3-0.30
Jon BertiCHC-0.10-0.1
Ryan BrasierCHC0.30.4-0.1
Eli MorganCHC-0.5-0.3-0.2
Andrew KittredgeCHC-0.30-0.3
Julian MerryweatherCHC-0.4-0.1-0.3
Porter HodgeCHC-0.8-0.5-0.3
Nate PearsonCHC-0.6-0.2-0.4
Jordan WicksCHC-0.50.1-0.6
Ben BrownCHC-0.81-1.8
Total12.28.04.2

So, what is this telling us? I’d say that The players with a positive difference have had results that are better than how well they’ve actually pitched. Which is a bit concerning. At the bottom of the list, are pitchers who have pitched better than their results, with Ben Brown being the obvious poster boy. It might also be a reason why Brown has been kept around, despite so many poor outcomes.

Matthew Boyd has still been very good, with a 3.2 WAR, but his results have been even better. But Shota Imanaga is only at a 0.9 WAR but a 2.4 RA9-WAR. Could some of this be due to the Cubs defense? possibly.

Looking at a couple other teams: the Brewers have a +5.3 RA9-WAR over their WAR. And two bad defensive teams, the Nats have a -8.1 and the Rockies have a -6.1. So defense definitely seems to be part of the equation.

I do think I’ll switch to RA9-WAR when sorting pitchers moving forward, but will keep looking for the best stat.


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